Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  New Picture for Memorial Season

  by Doctor Who in

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  i think this would work well.... .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Love it! But, but, but...

  JWs don't want brains! They take that part out and throw it away.
  
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  Just woke up

  by Doctor Who in

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  new to the site.

  currently i am a ministerial servant and was told i was appointed to be an elder.

  i told the brothers i was not ready for that assignment.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome! And congrats for learning the truth about the truth.

  Currently I am a ministerial servant and was told I was appointed to be an elder. I told the brothers I was not ready for that assignment.

  You dodged a bullet. For me it was eye-opening when I became an elder. I went in with optimism and energy expecting to fix a lot of things and see jehovah's spirit in action. Ugh. Instead it was tons of paperwork, long meetings that usually accomplished nothing, and being required to kiss the CO's ass. It was awful.
  
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  Why are so many Elders and Elders deleted so angry at the Flock?

  by JWCartPusher in

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  has anyone else experienced the wrath of elders and ex-elders on innocent rank-and-file dubs?

  what are these power hungry men and their wives so mad about?

  where is the love we were promised when those witnesses spent hours indoctrinating us about the spiritual paradise of witnesses we would be joining?

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Has anyone else experienced the wrath of Elders and ex-Elders on innocent rank-and-file dubs?

  Yes.
  

  What are these power hungry men and their wives so mad about?

  Many are tired from working low-paying jobs, disappointed that they are growing older and poorer while the paradise isn't really any closer than it was 40 years ago. When they go to the meetings they're tired of giving so many talks and trying to get others to show up for FS. They tire of befriending and love-bombing other people that they really don't have much in common with or even like sometimes. And they're tired of kissing the CO's and COW's asses every few months. They can't take this disappointment and frustration out of jehovah, the GB, or the bOrg. That just leaves everything and everyone else as targets.
  

  Where is the love we were promised when those witnesses spent hours indoctrinating us about the Spiritual Paradise of Witnesses we would be joining?

  The "love" was just love-bombing to get people to join. Then "love" is just a propaganda tool like "joy". They're depressed and emotionally distant, but call them "joy" and "love".
  

  Where are these or "them" who love each other?

  There's plenty of love to be found outside the KH.
  

  All I experienced is their hatred and wrath, what should I do, roll away?

  You're still a young cart, there can be much more to life than displaying WT litteratrash and advertising their Interwebsite. Perhaps you could replace all that stuff with some nice brochures and posters for vacations or cars! Or, maybe you could go to university and handle brochures for educational programs and financial aid. Whatever you choose, it's likely that you will get much more love and attention than what you've been getting as a JWcart. Also, I hope you're comfortable with people getting all touchy-feely if you become a "worldly" display.
  
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  How to get my kids out

  by SaneAgain in

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  i've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.

  my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).

  i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  How much time do you get to spend with the kids? Do you have non-JW relatives?

  I'm not a parent, but I was an elder enough to see how these things can go sometimes. My first suggestion would be to get to know what's going on with the kids. Help them to feel really comfortable and relaxed around you.

  They're probably getting programmed to be uptight and defensive around you, their dfd dad. And they're too young to effectively become independent... when they get to their teens, that will come out! Make sure they understand that you love them and will listen to whatever is in their hearts.

  As I remember growing up in WTland, I got plenty of lecturing on what to say, think, and do from my parents and all the KH sheeples. I didn't need someone to ramp up the internal conflict of proJW/antiJW rhetoric. I needed an adult that really listened and cared about me... without all the WT crap.

  While they're young, it can be hard to listen to and understand their thoughts as kids, but it sets the groundwork for a solid future relationship.

  But that's just the opinion of an exJW ex-elder.
  
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  Zone Visit - Sri Lanka Governing Body member David Splane

  by Liyanage in

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  last sunday (23rd february 2015) we had our zone visit ( visit headquarters representative).

  this time governing body member david splane and brother john ekrann came to sri lanka.

  and they spent almost one week in sri lanka.. .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  And he mentioned one publisher give only average of Sri Lanka Rupees 165/- ( Equal to US$ 1.25) for a month. Therefore he encourage to increase the that amount.

  Nothing quite as disgusting as a rich westerner flying out to shake down the locals for more ca$h!
  
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  ...If The "WBT$ GB Rock Star Popes" Sold Their Watches...

  by OUTLAW in

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  2. beliefs

  wbt$ gb rock star popes and their fancy watches... .. are "extremely expensive" rolex watches being forced on the wbt$ rock star popes?!!...

  are the watches just rolex "knock offs" so the wbt$ gb rock star popes only "appear wealthy"?!...

  .. geoffrey jackson.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Those expensive watches and none of them can tell what time it is.

  WT has been completely wrong for over a hundred years. Does it really matter how many hours and minutes more have passed?
  
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  Top 10 Memorial Excuses

  by rebel8 in

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  good excuses.

  pinkeye.

  (highly contagious, and you aren't supposed to touch other people's dishes and glasses.)tuberculosis.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  If the memorial is that important, I'll just catch the highlights on the Interwebsite!
  
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  this week's bible reading leviticus chap 19 - 21 - my opening remarks

  by user100 in

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  so.. some asshole visits another asshole but a mob erupts and wants to rape the visiting asshole.. the host asshole offers his daughter and the visiting asshole's concubine to appease the mob.. sure enough.. the concubine ends up gang raped and murdered.

  in the morning the visiting asshole loads her up on his donkey, takes her home, dismembers her body into 12 pieces and sends it to all the tribes to incite war.. so an army of 22,000 is formed, some prick goes and asks jehovah if they should go and destroy the gang raping mob.. and jehovah says 'yes.. do it.

  they go to fight and loose all 22,000 die.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  This is some fatally flawed logic:
  

  Sometimes Jehovah tests to see how far you will persevere in begging him to get things done.

  22,000 die the first time + 18,000 die the second time. All of those were just being "tested" by jehovah? After they died, how much further could that 40,000 "persevere in begging him to get things done?" Did these dead men pass or fail jehovah's "test"? And I thought jehovah didn't test people with evil, right? Or is seeing 40,000 dead a good test?
  
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  Please Welcome me

  by Sofia Lose in

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  have lurked here for many, many years.

  female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.

  my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!
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  Jw Business Cards??? Really???

  by Nosferatu in

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  i got one from my mother.

  when the hell did they start doing this???.

  i'm guessing this is the way they're going to do it eventually.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  

  Holy Christmas! It looks like the JW is already shaking down this family for money! The way he's got his hand out, they should include a caption like, "When we say "free personal Bible study" it means we're going to personally free you from your money while we distract you with empty promises."